Comments on: Request for ideas: private, restricted and public posts in a Drupal-based class blog http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/ I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly - Michel de Montaigne Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:14:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Ben Werdmuller http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3459 Ben Werdmuller Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:51:17 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3459 <p>Hi all,</p> <p>I'm a bit late to the party, but a couple of points:</p> <ol> <li><p>In addition to the communities functionality, Elgg does provide for access groups. For example, I've set a group called 'development team' which incorporates the core Elgg developers; I can then share files and blog posts with them but have them hidden from the rest of the world. We don't need to set up a community to do this, and nobody need know I have this group.</p></li> <li><p>Elgg is really easy to configure; a number of times we've been asked to remove the 'public' posting function from the access lists for all but administrators. This is very simple and allows for a free but publicly moderated community. I would argue very strongly against controlling what students post even within the school - a community is not a CMS, it's a forum for discussion. Students are much less likely to post at all if everything needs to be individually approved, and doing so might turn into a full-time job.</p></li> </ol> Hi all,

I’m a bit late to the party, but a couple of points:

  1. In addition to the communities functionality, Elgg does provide for access groups. For example, I’ve set a group called ‘development team’ which incorporates the core Elgg developers; I can then share files and blog posts with them but have them hidden from the rest of the world. We don’t need to set up a community to do this, and nobody need know I have this group.

  2. Elgg is really easy to configure; a number of times we’ve been asked to remove the ‘public’ posting function from the access lists for all but administrators. This is very simple and allows for a free but publicly moderated community. I would argue very strongly against controlling what students post even within the school - a community is not a CMS, it’s a forum for discussion. Students are much less likely to post at all if everything needs to be individually approved, and doing so might turn into a full-time job.

]]> By: Rob Wall http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3304 Rob Wall Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:19:27 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3304 <p>Yeah - Elgg looks pretty good. But if I want to convince teachers and administrators, they want to have control over what students are posting (which is a fair requirement for content that is going on a school web site). There is an administrative account which can administer content, but it would be nice to have a more flexible roles and permissions system; Drupal absolutely kicks at that!</p> Yeah - Elgg looks pretty good. But if I want to convince teachers and administrators, they want to have control over what students are posting (which is a fair requirement for content that is going on a school web site). There is an administrative account which can administer content, but it would be nice to have a more flexible roles and permissions system; Drupal absolutely kicks at that!

]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3303 D'Arcy Norman Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:15:01 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3303 <p>well there ya go... Elgg it is! :-)</p> well there ya go… Elgg it is! :-)

]]> By: Rob Wall http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3302 Rob Wall Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:04:10 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3302 <p>Multiple groups (communities, in Elgg-speak) are one of the strongest features in Elgg. Any user can create communities and control membership to be open, closed or require the creator's approval.</p> Multiple groups (communities, in Elgg-speak) are one of the strongest features in Elgg. Any user can create communities and control membership to be open, closed or require the creator’s approval.

]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3295 D'Arcy Norman Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:11:06 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3295 <p>Rob - if you set a post to not be "Public", and select at least one Organic Group in the "Audience" section, then only those folks in the selected group(s) should be able to see it. Not as easy as the private/friends/public setting in Flickr or Elgg, but much more flexible as you can define any number of groups. I might be wrong about Elgg, though - it may offer multiple groups as well.</p> <p>Also, I gave up on Akismet long ago. False positives/negatives etc... so I turfed it and reverted to Spam Karma 2, which rocks the Casbah.</p> Rob - if you set a post to not be “Public”, and select at least one Organic Group in the “Audience” section, then only those folks in the selected group(s) should be able to see it. Not as easy as the private/friends/public setting in Flickr or Elgg, but much more flexible as you can define any number of groups. I might be wrong about Elgg, though - it may offer multiple groups as well.

Also, I gave up on Akismet long ago. False positives/negatives etc… so I turfed it and reverted to Spam Karma 2, which rocks the Casbah.

]]> By: Rob Wall http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3284 Rob Wall Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:08:51 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3284 <p>Oi - this is crazy. My previous comment was caught by Akismet!! How can I be logged in as the blog administrator and my comments get labelled as spam?</p> Oi - this is crazy. My previous comment was caught by Akismet!! How can I be logged in as the blog administrator and my comments get labelled as spam?

]]> By: Rob Wall http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3263 Rob Wall Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:59:59 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3263 <p>Hey D'Arcy - you were one of the Drupal geeks I had in mind. I've played around a bit with organic groups on a test install once. Does it provide the ability to make posts private?</p> <p>Harold, I had given Elgg some very serious consideration. What I was concerned with was providing some sort of workflow to allow posts to be checked by the teacher before they went public instead of after they have gone live. The ability to make assign some levels of privacy is something that I think Elgg does very well. I'm also using profiles in Drupal to provide for some social networking based on interests of the students, which is also a very Elgg-like capability. We're still early in the process, so I might just make the transition if some of the access control and publishing control issues that are needed in a secondary school can be managed.</p> Hey D’Arcy - you were one of the Drupal geeks I had in mind. I’ve played around a bit with organic groups on a test install once. Does it provide the ability to make posts private?

Harold, I had given Elgg some very serious consideration. What I was concerned with was providing some sort of workflow to allow posts to be checked by the teacher before they went public instead of after they have gone live. The ability to make assign some levels of privacy is something that I think Elgg does very well. I’m also using profiles in Drupal to provide for some social networking based on interests of the students, which is also a very Elgg-like capability. We’re still early in the process, so I might just make the transition if some of the access control and publishing control issues that are needed in a secondary school can be managed.

]]> By: Harold Jarche http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3262 Harold Jarche Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:39:27 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3262 <p>I used to use Drupal for my own blog and now use WordPress, but I would recommend elgg.net for almost any educational setting, as it includes blogs, e-portfolios and social networking; all in one.</p> <p>Your question would have been easy to answer with Elgg, as every post/object that is created can be marked as private, group members only, community members only, or public. You may want to consider Elgg for your next class ...</p> I used to use Drupal for my own blog and now use WordPress, but I would recommend elgg.net for almost any educational setting, as it includes blogs, e-portfolios and social networking; all in one.

Your question would have been easy to answer with Elgg, as every post/object that is created can be marked as private, group members only, community members only, or public. You may want to consider Elgg for your next class …

]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3261 D'Arcy Norman Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:18:53 +0000 http://stigmergicweb.org/2006/03/29/request-for-ideas-private-restricted-and-public-posts-in-a-drupal-based-class-blog/#comment-3261 <p>I'm playing with the Organic Groups module to do this. It lets people create their own "groups", manage who is in them, and then make content visible only to those people. It's a bit non-intuitive in that Organic Groups are technically just nodes, so you go to Create Content > Group, but it works...</p> I’m playing with the Organic Groups module to do this. It lets people create their own “groups”, manage who is in them, and then make content visible only to those people. It’s a bit non-intuitive in that Organic Groups are technically just nodes, so you go to Create Content > Group, but it works…

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